Journey Back to Laos

On Journey Back to Laos

This is an accordion element with a series of buttons that open and close related content panels.

Fue Chou Thao on Hmong Funerals

One of the most interesting parts of Hmong. A time to grieve, remember, show respect, talk, visit, even laugh. A time to help the deceased’s spirit to its ancestors. … There are four major steps in a Hmong funeral. The first is as follows: The dead body is dressed in traditional Hmong clothes. But not just any traditional clothing, these are funeral clothes … After being dressed the body is placed on a table. (Later it will be put in a coffin.)

–Benjamin

The body would be dressed in traditional clothes made by the family. It would be made completely out of cloth and other disposable materials. If anything in the coffin could not [decompose] it would bring bad luck to the family.

–Alex

People who don’t like the person who died will often put some kind of metal in the coffin so the person’s spirit will not be able to rest in peace.

–Martha

The body lies, dressed in colorful clothing in the center of the stage, not yet in a casket, for the people that attend the funeral to say their goodbyes and offer any objects or words to help the deceased retrace the steps of her life.

–Sarah

One of the points of funerals is to get the spirit of the dead person back to the place of birth to get the placenta, so it can enter the spirit world.

–Abigail

When a baby girl is born, her placenta is put under the bed in the house. When the boy is born, his placenta goes in the center post of the house. A person called the Txiv Taw Kev guides the deceased on a journey to her/his past by going to wherever they came first in America to Thailand to Mekong River to the person’s village in Laos, then they go back to where they were born.

–Gabby

If the person is old, it takes many hours to lead the spirit through all the home of life and to the placenta. But it doesn’t take very long if the person is young.

–Abigail

The second step involves a rooster, a special man (the Txiv Taw Kev), some spirits, and some gifts.

–Benjamin

The Txiv Taw Kev will ask her questions such as, “Are you really dead?” Of course she won’t answer, but somehow the man knows.

–Sarah

The spiritual guide ceremonially tells the spirit of the deceased that they will be going through the locations in her life, backwards. He guides her back through her life to the spot of her birth to get her placenta, which is the afterbirth. The qeej player also helps her with this. The placenta is very important, because without it the deceased cannot enter the underworld.

–Tim

It is the rooster’s spirit that guides the spirit to its ancestors. The person’s spirit takes their placenta, gifts, food, money and a crossbow for protection as they set off to find the ancestors. … The food is to eat, and the money to pass gates.

–Benjamin

Once the rooster crows and the ancestor’s rooster crows to answer it then it has found your true ancestor! Then it is sacrificed to lead the spirit to the ancestor and to be like the spirit’s pet. It’s killed by cutting its neck half way with a knife. Parts like the liver are put in a container to be the spirit’s food.

–Abigail

Usually this takes about two hours, and during that time they are play the qeej. … Also during that time, family and friends bless the deceased and ask/wish for good luck or a blessing for them too.

–Emily

The step[s] of killing the rooster [are] hold the rooster very tight so it won’t get away, then you cut the neck to half way, then you take out the rooster liver to cook and then feed to the dead person, and then put the rooster in a box with the person who passed away.

–Pakou

Step 3 involves a qeej (keng), its player, the body, body carriers, a drum and a drummer. A special song on the qeej is played with a drum accompaniment as the body is carried, still in traditional clothes, to the coffin. This song can last up to 2 hours.

–Benjamin

Lots of animals are sacrificed at a funeral. Almost always a rooster is sacrificed, but if the person is married they have to sacrifice [anything] from a pig to a cow. If they are not married, or are young, they do not have to make much of a sacrifice. A cow is sacrificed by tying a string to it and putting the end of the string in the dead person’s hands.

–Alex

Traditionally, there would be four qeej players, animals would be ceremonially sacrificed at a butcher shop, and the body would be hung on the wall. There will be more than four at this funeral, the animals will be sacrificed at a farm (as there won’t be any butcher shops nearby), and in Madison they can’t hang the body on the walls as it’s going to be done at a funeral parlor. Fue Chou passed around a photo of the cows that will be sacrificed. I noted that they are somewhat shaggy.

–Abigail

There will be soda or liquor in small cups and that will be given to the entire clan/family.

–Nico

Everybody will sit and remember [the deceased]. There might be crying, laughing, people visiting with old friends, and the qeej and drum. It depends how long this lasts. For Tria Thao, it will take longer because she was an elder. This and the spiritual journey are usually one very long part of the 3 or 4 day funeral.

–Emily

To some people a Hmong funeral is a strange thing. But if you actually start to kind of understand them, they are not very strange. I don’t think they sound too strange.

–Mariah

One last thing: If you ever go to a Hmong funeral, don’t be surprised if there is laughter. Hmong funerals are part funeral, part family reunion.

–Emily

Dhia Thao's Funeral

Arrival

On Friday, February 14, 2003, my class went to a Hmong funeral. It was my first funeral, same with some other classmates. Dhia Thao was 88 when she died. She died of health problems. She came to America in 1976, and then worked in a pickle factory with her son. Dhia Thao had seven children, 5 boys and 2 girls.

–Mariah

When I first walked in it was exciting, being at a Hmong funeral. It wasn’t at all what culture I knew. It was astonishing to me. I had expected people crying – black – a coffin. Well, that’s not what I found. When I entered the space, where the body was held, I got nervous. A lot of people were staring – looking – glancing, but then I noticed they were all saying welcome.

–Erika

When we got off the bus, I was all happy. We entered the building. I experienced a little bit of culture shock.

–Jeremy

“Our culture is strange to others,” said Fue Chou Thao, a Hmong man at the funeral. The Hmong have very different funerals from you and me. Their funerals are for four days starting at 8 on Friday and going till noon on Monday. How long the different ceremonies are depend on how old the person is when they die. There have been certain changes since the Hmong have moved from Laos to America.

–Izzy

The 3 1/2 days of rituals aren’t all funeral. They are also the graveside ceremonies and the wake all put into one. It’s hard to say how long each part of it is because they are all blended together.

–Sara

How the Room Looked

When we got there, Fue Chou Thao greeted us and gave us seats where the ceremonies would be done.

–Dylan.

I knew this would turn out to be greatly amazing and it was. Chairs for the audience, a carpeted floor, couches, the spiritual guide, the dead body, the qeej player, the drum, the gifts, the spirit money and the coffin. Amazing.

–Benjamin

The woman who had died was lying near the front of the room. She wasn’t in a coffin. She was just on the floor.

–Dylan and Erika

Sitting next to her was a Hmong man…The man was a (spiritual) guide…At the table that the man was sitting at were some small pieces of paper with bars of silver on them. They were supposed to work as money in Dhia’s new life. There was also a box next to the table. It had an umbrella and some food and drink that she would need in her next life.

–Sara

A big drum is hung from a pyramid made from wood. They beat the drum and then hang it.

–Emma

There are many pictures of Dhia on the walls of the funeral home.

–Nate

Then Abigail came running up to me saying how Dhia died and all that kind of stuff. So I said “How do you know all that stuff?” She said “Her life is on that paper over there. I went and read it.” So I went and I found out she was a strong women that had seven children and two heart attacks.

–Cristina

In another room there were flowers and wreaths that I am guessing were for the family, to show respect.

–Dylan

As we walked in the door, we were welcomed by people who were sitting, chatting, enjoying themselves. It didn’t really seem like a funeral at all except for the body of 88-yr old Dhia Thao, dressed in colorful clothes and her family and in-laws at her side.

–Abigail

Most were totally open to having a dead person in the room.

–Izzy

Most of the people around us were men. They were talking and laughing happily with each other. The women were in two different places. They were in the far side of the room hanging up paper string and folded paper that looked like boats. There were thousands of these hanging up in an X-shape across the ceiling. The center point of the X was directly above the body of the deceased, Dhia Tao. We later found that the paper objects were a form on money. … (the other place were the women were) was a room very similar to the one where the funeral was being held that was reserved for women to go and talk to each other.

–Sarah

I saw no one crying but I bet as the days go on there will be more emotional behavior because it getting to the point where they have to say goodbye.

–Izzy

The Ceremonies and Traditions: The Spirit’s Journey

The Hmong believe in spirits and reincarnation. I don’t really understand what a spirit is, but the whole funeral is basically about helping the spirit get back to its ancestors so it can live again.

–Sara

The Hmong have a belief that in order to get into the spirit world, the spirit has to go through all of the places it lived in, and finally get to the place of birth to get the placenta so it can show the placenta to his/her ancestors and pass into the spirit world. The spiritual guide tells her/him where to go and what to do.

–Abigail

…A man plays the qeej. They are instructed by the qeej music to go find their placenta. At birth a girl’s placenta is put under the bed and a boy’s is put near the center pole. So there is a rooster present and a man talks to the person and guides them to all the places they have lived and then when they finally get to the place they were born and get their placenta they can go to their ancestors and the rooster guides them to their ancestors. Depending how old the person is it takes longer because they have been to more places than someone that died younger.

–Izzy

After the spiritual guide has gotten her/him to the placenta, a rooster is brought in to the body’s presence. When it crows, that tells the spirit “I have found your true ancestor,” and it tells the way. After it crows, it is sacrificed, to be like the pet of the spirit.

–Abigail

When we were there, the rooster was killed outside. From then on the rooster will serve as her guide. When Dhia Thao comes across a spirit she will not know if he/she is here ancestor or not. So, the rooster gives his Cock-a-Doodle-Doo call, and if the spirit’s rooster answers, that means Yes, the spirit is a true ancestor.

–Sarah

The liver and other parts are given to the spirit as food, buried beside the coffin.

–Abigail

From the moment a Hmong person is born, there is a house spirit that lives in the house and protects her. When the Hmong person dies, she will have to leave the house and make her journey. The Txiv Taw Kev guides her through this part. (The twix taw kev is the spiritual guide.) The spirit will try to keep her in the house.

–Sarah

If the spirit in the house says that you can’t go, then you’ll have to pay and say that I am dead now and I have to leave this house. I don’t belong here any more, I belong in the spirit world with my ancestors. If you don’t let me go, I’ll pay you.

–Pao

Music, Ceremonies and Rituals

When the spiritual guide does his ceremony 80-90% of it is specially designed for her (the deceased). The other 10%-20% that’s left is used in every Hmong funeral.

–Erika

There is a spirit man who talks to the dead person on the first day of the funeral. He tells the spirit to go to the other world.”

–Pao

The (spiritual) guide started singing and throwing a bamboo stick split in half to make two. While he was singing he was asking her questions or something and if he threw them and …

–Sara

…If both are face down, it means no and the spirits are happy. If two of them are face up, it means the humans are happy and no. But if one is face down and one is face up, it means the both spirits and humans are happy and it means yes.

–Pao

Whenever one was up and one down the family members kneeling by the coffin holding incense would bow twice in a sign of thanks.

–Izzy

Cows and pigs were also sacrificed to act as food and something to carry things on. The sacrificed rooster’s liver is fed to the Spirit. While the larger animals are being sacrificed, there is a rope or string connecting the body to the animal. Many people will often hold the rope or string. My class did not see any of the sacrifices happening. The rooster was killed outside and the cows at a farm.

–Martha

Music

In Hmong funerals, you have to have four qeej players along with some drum players. The job for the qeej players and the drum player are to send the dead person to the other world. The qeej is saying “go to the other world, we don’t want you to stay so you don’t scare us, go to your ancestors.

–Pao

The qeej playing is a very important part of the funeral. There are many many different songs played. The songs can last an hour or two hours, and that might seem very long, but it really isn’t because the funeral ceremonies last for 3+ days!!! Many of the songs the qeej plays are to thank mother earth, the relative and friends of the deceased and all the spirits that have helped her in her life.

–Sarah

When the qeej players play, they play stories. Some about the sun and moon, others about mother earth and the sky.

–Sara

The twix taw kev will sing for a very long time in the funerals, with the sons and daughters of the deceased mourning and bowing to the corpse of their old, wise mother.

–Nate

Family Members

Right next to Dhia Thao her family was blowing with incense because they were wishing themselves good blessings.

–Mariah

Her family members would be around her protecting her.

–Mark

When people brought a gift, the family would come and bow and say thanks and the people who gave the gift would repeat.

–Gabby

The Body and Clothes

Dhia was dressed in special “funeral clothes” that had been prepared for her years earlier.

–Benjamin

Dhia is dressed for all seasons with show shoes, a traditional Hmong coat, an umbrella and a crossbow. The coat and snow shoes are for winter, the umbrella if for rainy times and the crossbow for hunting and killing animals to eat.

–Nate

…the body (was) covered with the beautiful clothes of the traditional clothing of the Hmong. She had a black and white polka-dotted “turban” around her head. The upper part of the body had mostly blues and a little bit of white and black in some places near the arms. The lower par of the body in my perspective was a lot prettier than the upper part. It had pink, orange, blue and a lot of other colors. The feet had grass woven soles and supports.

–Jeremy

The outfit she wears has never been worn before. Also the shoes are made especially for snow because it is cold in China where she will end up.

–Gabby

(The shoes were) purple with the toes curled up. There were pieces of rope on the bottom, to make the shoes serve as show shoes in case of bad weather on her journey through the spiritual world back to her birthplace.

–Sarah

What was neat was that people would come up and fix something. It the shoe was coming off, they’d slip it on. If a button was undone, they’d come and button it.

–Erika

Coffin

Her coffin was made out of a tree found in Laos that is like a pine tree. The coffin was made in Laos, her homeland.

–Jeremy

The wood came all the way from a cedar tree in Laos and smelled really good and fresh.

–Sarah

The coffin … was put together with wood nails. This is a tradition. No metal things can be put in the coffin because it brings bad luck to the person in their next life or the relatives that are still alive. So, on Saturday all of the family members guard the coffin to make sure no one puts any metal in.

–Izzy

Fue Chou explained to us that there are many different kinds of coffins. Some are very fancy, with lots of swirls and such carved in. The one there was standard, not too fancy and not too plain.

–Alex

Spirit Money

Hanging from the ceiling were paper boats with gold and silver foil on them. These represent gold and silver bars for wealth in the other world. The paper boats are made by the family of the one who has died. They can begin making the boats as soon as the person has died.

–Unknown

Spirit money is money that is burned after the dead person’s spirit has finished its journey. Some money is taken by the spirit to pay as it passes through the gate. The money in Laos was actually gold and silver bars. Here, because we don’t use that, they use pieces of paper that are folded into the shape of a boat they have painted gold for gold bars and silver for silver bars.

–Benjamin

Even the spirits need money.

–Abigail

Lasting Impressions

When we got on the bus, I felt proud I decided to come to the funeral, but half of me said to stay, so I got kind of scared I made the wrong decision. When my class and I got there, I felt very scared because of the dead body. I want to explore a new culture because of the exciting activities, food, etc. But in the other way, I wanted to stay at school… Then we went in where the dead body was and sat in that room. I kept on telling Melissa “I’m scared, are you scared …” So I just opened my Hmong Culture notebook and wrote what people were doing. We went in to the room where the dead body was. Then everyone looked at us and got us and said “Here are some chairs you can sit on. … They were very nice. I felt right at home with different styles and the dead body.

–Cristina

I am glad I went to the funeral. It was a powerful experience for me. I appreciate them letting us come and see their culture.

–Emma

…And:

There was a spiritual guide at the funeral. He sang the whole time! His voice must have been tired at the end.

–Mariah

I’ll never forget this funeral. It was really a good experience. I can’t wait to go to another.

–Abigail

Trip to Thailand

A man named Vaughn Vang went with some students to visit Hmong villages in Thailand. They got to do a lot of neat stuff. They were grinding corn for feed for animals with a horizontal pole they pulled around in a circle, which made a stone move and grind corn. They also smashed rice to make dough. They took a special paddle and kept hitting the rice hard on a wooden plate until it got doughy.

–Izzy S.

In Green Bay, we saw a video made by Vaughn Vang about Thai Hmong and how they live. Thai Hmong live a simple life with no engine-powered machines, which means that they have no watches or alarms or electricity. In each town, they have at least one of each kind of worker—blacksmith, butcher, etc.

–Jeremy

 

Vaughn Vang showed us a video he had made about a Thai Hmong village. They didn’t have any modern technology. They had tools for grinding corn and for making rolls. It was really interesting to see people living a totally different life than us.

–Dylan

My favorite part was when they wound hemp. They wound it using a wheel and pedals.

–Thomas

When Vaughn Vang went into the Thai villages with some teenage students, they met an old lady. She was nice and gentle. She taught them stuff. When they left, the old lady cried. She didn’t want them to leave, because she didn’t have any other people to come and visit.

–Mark

The video was about a class like ours studying Hmong culture. They got to beat rice, weave, and try other stuff Hmong traditionally do. They also spoke to elders, and one lady was so happy they came she cried.

–Erika

The Hmong were persecuted in Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, and possibly China. In Thailand, the Hmong were forced to change their names to avoid persecution.

–Tim

When they crossed the Mekong River some Hmong didn’t know how to swim, and sometimes the adults carried children on their backs or put babies into baskets.

–Pakou

Dang Yang Life Story

Dang Yang (pronounced Da Ya in traditional Hmong) was born in Laos, high in the mountains. He learned to make and play beautiful instruments when he was a child. In 1958 his family moved to Kaos, a little Hmong village. Dang’s family stayed there while his father went out to find and bring back Dang’s father-in-law and brother-in-law. But a messenger came and told the family that the Communist army had killed Dang’s father. They were very sad, and for months they cried. The people in the village had a party for them. There they played a song on the Hmong violin that was happy and joyful. Dang has remembered the song to this day. All of a sudden, the cloud of darkness over Dang’s family vanished.

In 1967 Dang’s mother married again. Soon after that the Communists started to take over the country, and Dang’s family was forced to move from town to town. In 1968, at the age of 15, Dang joined the army. He was the one from his family chosen to go, because in Hmong tradition it is the eldest son who goes. If the father leaves the family, it is very bad luck. Dang stayed in the army for seven years. In 1975 he returned to the village he had lived in, hoping to find his family, but there was nothing. No people, no houses—just pigs, cows, chickens, sheep and horses the villagers had left behind in their flight from the Communists.

When Dang finally found his family, they traveled together through the jungle. While they were walking through the huge jungle, Dang’s mother and father died of water poisoning. The journey took Dang and nine others one month and 15 days. On foot!

On July 22, 1980, Dang arrived in America. For the first two years he lived with a sponsor in Manitowoc. For a hobby, Dang and his friends played soccer! See—he isn’t much different from other Americans at all!

In the summer of 1982 he moved to Milwaukee. Somebody told him about a job opening, and needing a job he quickly accepted, even though it only paid three dollars per hour. In 1983, Dang realized that he was very lonely. Right around that time he met Lee. Lee told us that whenever she saw Dang he was sad and crying in loneliness. He asked her to marry him, and even though she was only 15 she agreed. It might seem a little strange to think about marrying so young, but in Hmong culture that is the custom. However, Lee tells HER daughters that they must finish high school and college before they can marry, because times have changed, and it is very important to have a good education. Now Lee and Dang speak very good English (as well as Hmong, Laos, French and Thai!) and are living in a house in Milwaukee. So I think that they are adjusting well to American culture.

–Sarah M.

Dang Yang’s father died when Dang Yang was seven years old. It must of been sad for him, really sad.

Mariah

When Dang went to America he played songs about his mother and father. That made him sad, so he cried a lot.

Nate

Every New Year Lee makes Hmong clothes [for the family]. Dang’s clothes are black with orange designs. Their daughter is the best dresser in her school. Lee says that she wants her daughter to always dress good.

Pao

Dang Yang was born in Laos in 1953. The village he lived in was small. Dang’s father died when he was seven. His mother married a second time. Dang’s family moved from town to town for a while until 1968, when Dang was fifteen and was drafted for the army. By the time he got out, his whole village was gone.

Alex

Lee married Dang in America when she was 15. The Hmong traditionally marry early. Lee wants her daughters NOT to marry that young. She wants them to go to college, to have an education, and to take care of themselves, and then marry. But if someone special comes along, she won’t outlaw marriage as a possibility.

–Erika

Lee wants her children to learn how to sew and Dang wants them to learn how to make and play instruments. They tell their children Hmong folktales. Their family sometimes goes to Shamans. Lee got married when she was 15, but she wants her children to finish college.

Gabby